“Except the difference is, we're doing the same thing, but with tens of millions of ballots. This is a disaster waiting to happen and they shouldn't let this system go. If you ask for a ballot, it's called solicited, you solicit, you want the ballot, it comes in, you sign it, you send it back, that's OK. But where they send millions and millions of unsolicited ballots, people get ballots, they didn't even know they were getting them. Sign it, sign it, then there are people going around getting them to sign. You know when you have that, you don't need it. We have much more enthusiasm, we're so high up on enthusiasm, right? But it's very unfair because when you have somebody go knock on your door, sign. There going -- it's called harvesting.”